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  • #16
    for some reason i feel like larry knows what he's talking about. im gonna have to side with him and everyone else that says it's a bad idea to use E-85 in a stock engine not meant for it.
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    • #17
      But now an interesting idea is to make your own hydrogen bubbler and then have your car run off of the hydrogen gas using nothing more than tap or distilled water.
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      • #18
        yeah, i dont plan on using that E-85 in anything ever

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        • #19
          well when you run a fuel at 14.7:1 that is ment for like 9.6:1 you can't expect it to run good. that would be like running your gas car at 19:1! one would expect to have problems. I personaly like the idea of running e-85 as a replacement for race gas only. Its not cheap enough to justify the cost of converting everything and the fuel mileage loss.
          So obviosly some people get luck and can run e85 with no problems or changes and some cannot. Lets just agree your 95% of the time better off doing all the stuff to convert it
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          • #20
            Originally posted by meissen View Post
            But now an interesting idea is to make your own hydrogen bubbler and then have your car run off of the hydrogen gas using nothing more than tap or distilled water.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by MORNINGSTAR2101 View Post
              yeah, i dont plan on using that E-85 in anything ever
              E-85 should be used as a 'cheap' race fuel.. thats probably the best use for it. But you need to do the conversions first!

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              • #22
                I don't know ,but I used it in my S10 Xtreme ,(made for it) and I'll never use it again ,even if it was $1.00 a gallon.!!!

                The darn truck got so messed up ,it would hardly run 30 miles an hour ..

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by meissen View Post
                  But now an interesting idea is to make your own hydrogen bubbler and then have your car run off of the hydrogen gas using nothing more than tap or distilled water.
                  hahaha . . . a friend of mine (Randy, the guy that helped us at Superfest) actually is doing this to a car that they have at work, as a "experiment". They bought the book from the internet and followed the directions. They were all pretty skeptical but curious.

                  They are going to tear the car down after a few thousand miles and see if there is any damage. So far the fuel economy has increased over 30% on the car they are using . . . they are putting about 50 miles a day on it. No mods except adding the bubbler.

                  I'm still skeptical, but beginning to be convinced . .
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MikeM View Post
                    hahaha . . . a friend of mine (Randy, the guy that helped us at Superfest) actually is doing this to a car that they have at work, as a "experiment". They bought the book from the internet and followed the directions. They were all pretty skeptical but curious.

                    They are going to tear the car down after a few thousand miles and see if there is any damage. So far the fuel economy has increased over 30% on the car they are using . . . they are putting about 50 miles a day on it. No mods except adding the bubbler.

                    I'm still skeptical, but beginning to be convinced . .
                    Now THIS has me interested...
                    Originally posted by Redd8407
                    I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
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                    WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                    Originally posted by Darren
                    I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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                    • #25
                      They are doing this at work with a Grand Cherokee.

                      Haven't heard the results yet??

                      If I did it to my truck I would need about 12 bottles



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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MikeM View Post
                        hahaha . . . a friend of mine (Randy, the guy that helped us at Superfest) actually is doing this to a car that they have at work, as a "experiment". They bought the book from the internet and followed the directions. They were all pretty skeptical but curious.

                        They are going to tear the car down after a few thousand miles and see if there is any damage. So far the fuel economy has increased over 30% on the car they are using . . . they are putting about 50 miles a day on it. No mods except adding the bubbler.

                        I'm still skeptical, but beginning to be convinced . .
                        Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar View Post
                        Now THIS has me interested...
                        Supposedly anthing that is a huge alternative from using petroleum is really controversial. The guy was telling me that people got killed for being a big advocate of hydrogen and spreading the word because obviously it'd be a threat to OPEC's success in the future.
                        - Brian Meissen
                        Owner, MiFBody.com
                        Administrator, LTxTech.com


                        1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
                        2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
                        Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
                        June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                        The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DanO View Post
                          E-85 should be used as a 'cheap' race fuel.. thats probably the best use for it. But you need to do the conversions first!
                          yup, i am replacing c16 with e85 in my v8 truck is exactly the plan i have. i can run high boost without 12 dollars a gallon fuel.

                          but to do it... new lines, new fuel injectors, bigger fuel pump, bigger fpr and then the tune!

                          i would never run e85 in a motor that was not prepped to run it.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by meissen View Post
                            Supposedly anthing that is a huge alternative from using petroleum is really controversial. The guy was telling me that people got killed for being a big advocate of hydrogen and spreading the word because obviously it'd be a threat to OPEC's success in the future.
                            BTW, for those that don't know, the hydrogen bubbler doesn't completely replace the gasoline . . . you add it in to the existing fuel/air mix (how you do this differs depending on your fuel system.) It's just supposed to boost MPG.
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                            • #29
                              Sorry to bring up an old subject but when watching the video I noticed that the oil pump did not look like an LSX style oil pump now I am pretty sure that they changed the trucks over to an LSX based engine in 1999 please tell me if I am wrong. I would love to run my 5.3 on E-85 just to keep my money from leaving the country!

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                              • #30
                                I destroyed our '99 Jimmy with that stuff. I wouldn't try it. I should have sued Meijers for telling me it would work but the truck sputtered and spat through the entire tank of E85. Don't do it!

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