So i decided to build a 383 for my truck since it was already bored over and the stock crank was shot. i got a good deal on a new eagle crank and im enountering a ton of problems with rod and cam clearances. ive tried 4 different types of rods and they all hit the cam somewhere. i really dont have a clue what to check for or do anymore i used eagle rods, two types of stock rods both aluminum and steel, and i think bryants and they all hit. i can knick all of them with a grinder except for 4&5 which hit an insane amount. anyone have any ideas so that i dont hulk this engine through the air from being angry at it and regretting it later?
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my 383 hates me and i need help
91 Trans am, 305, Lt1 cam, 24lb injectors, headers, SLP LM2, SW chassis, massive panhard, lowered, modded TPI, Tuned, 4.10s, Lincoln locked
85 Z28 406/th400?/3.42 4th gen disc rear/4th gen dash
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Originally posted by TORN View Postsmall base circle cam?
1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc
2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver
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i did use those, 4 and 5 i ground down alot more than the others and its still touching a ton. i dont think i have enough to spend on a small base circle cam, lifters and all that.91 Trans am, 305, Lt1 cam, 24lb injectors, headers, SLP LM2, SW chassis, massive panhard, lowered, modded TPI, Tuned, 4.10s, Lincoln locked
85 Z28 406/th400?/3.42 4th gen disc rear/4th gen dash
00 Tahoe Z71........Stock
97 K1500 lt4 cam, 1.6s, MPFI, Solid axled, IROKs,------winter beater
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Now you see why people build a 357 and call it a day they are way cheaper to build, if you don't have the money you might want to rethink this motor idea you got cause you can't make a reg cam work.
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i have quite a hefty amount into it already. i was told the rods would work because they worked in a friends truck he came over and didnt have a clue why mine dont. i may have figured the issue out so ill keep you posted. i imagine i have to get everything rebalanced after grinding aye?91 Trans am, 305, Lt1 cam, 24lb injectors, headers, SLP LM2, SW chassis, massive panhard, lowered, modded TPI, Tuned, 4.10s, Lincoln locked
85 Z28 406/th400?/3.42 4th gen disc rear/4th gen dash
00 Tahoe Z71........Stock
97 K1500 lt4 cam, 1.6s, MPFI, Solid axled, IROKs,------winter beater
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i got them pretty much figured out i think, its not so much the head os the stud as to the surrounding corners and hard edges that need a shave. do you think i should get everything rebalanced now?91 Trans am, 305, Lt1 cam, 24lb injectors, headers, SLP LM2, SW chassis, massive panhard, lowered, modded TPI, Tuned, 4.10s, Lincoln locked
85 Z28 406/th400?/3.42 4th gen disc rear/4th gen dash
00 Tahoe Z71........Stock
97 K1500 lt4 cam, 1.6s, MPFI, Solid axled, IROKs,------winter beater
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Depends on how close they balanced the rotating assembly. Did they give you a spec sheet when you picked it up?
1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc
2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver
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no they did not, i want to not do it and say i dont need it because the darn thing was so unbalanced i found out when i originally took the 350 apart91 Trans am, 305, Lt1 cam, 24lb injectors, headers, SLP LM2, SW chassis, massive panhard, lowered, modded TPI, Tuned, 4.10s, Lincoln locked
85 Z28 406/th400?/3.42 4th gen disc rear/4th gen dash
00 Tahoe Z71........Stock
97 K1500 lt4 cam, 1.6s, MPFI, Solid axled, IROKs,------winter beater
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and what did the internals look like when you took it apart?!
If they went +/- 5 or 10 grams, you should be in the clear. Call the shop and ask what their typical balancing tolerances are. OEM motors are said to be +/- 25 to 30 grams even.
Just for reference, the weight of a nickel is 5 grams and a penny being 2.5 grams.
1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc
2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver
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looked like a mess. the balanced flywheel and harmonic balancer were sorta counteracting each other and it was way off balance.
ill give the shop a call tomorrow and ask them what their tolerances are and update from there91 Trans am, 305, Lt1 cam, 24lb injectors, headers, SLP LM2, SW chassis, massive panhard, lowered, modded TPI, Tuned, 4.10s, Lincoln locked
85 Z28 406/th400?/3.42 4th gen disc rear/4th gen dash
00 Tahoe Z71........Stock
97 K1500 lt4 cam, 1.6s, MPFI, Solid axled, IROKs,------winter beater
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Just did a rough calculation. For every gram you take off the near the bolt head, you get about 6 lbs of centrifugal force at 5500 RPM.
Not a huge deal, but worth considering if their tolerances are loose
1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc
2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver
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