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  • #16
    the material the sensor is made of could be the difference, id say the copper-ish substance the sensor is made of is softer and would have a weaker thread. However that being a problem... seems kinda doubtful to me but i have no idea what kind of pressures a transmission generates. It DOES screw right into the port on a 60e if there was any doubt of that.
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    • #17
      http://www.black98.cz28.com/photo6.html

      http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/automa...auge-help.html
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      • #18
        man its still a toss up. ease of installation would put it in the port and it seems accuracy puts it in line going to the cooler but more work and parts.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Formula Z View Post
          man its still a toss up. ease of installation would put it in the port and it seems accuracy puts it in line going to the cooler but more work and parts.
          That's what I got out of it too..
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          • #20
            That was a good read. A few good quotes from credible sources.

            Seems like putting it in the line with what looks to be a $5 T-fitting is the way to go.


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            • #21
              Originally posted by c0ncEpT View Post
              That was a good read. A few good quotes from credible sources.

              Seems like putting it in the line with what looks to be a $5 T-fitting is the way to go.
              Mike and I talked about this at Doug's visitation last night and both came to the same conclusion...
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              • #22
                cooler input line is the best place for sure as I said earlier.

                The problem with the pressure port is that a lot of fluid doesnt "flow" by that area.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ThreeHonks View Post
                  cooler input line is the best place for sure as I said earlier.

                  The problem with the pressure port is that a lot of fluid doesnt "flow" by that area.
                  Agreed.. That's exactly what that link said, you are getting more of a core temp vs a fluid temp in the pressure port.. I know where my sensor is going...
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                  • #24
                    yeah its definately going inline towards the cooler. just gotta get some parts now. thanks for the help and opinions fellas
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                    • #25
                      Ridings told me to put it in the pressure port so that's where I put it. Easy enough.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by OIF1VET View Post
                        Agreed.. That's exactly what that link said, you are getting more of a core temp vs a fluid temp in the pressure port.. I know where my sensor is going...
                        Right, but core temp has just as much to do with parts failure as fluid temp imo.

                        I'm not saying i disagree with putting it in the line, thats fine, but Im not seeing the point of the arguement on tech. I see a bunch of: 'The pressure port doesnt give you an accurate reading of fluid' ... so what? thats like asking what fails first, the main bearing or the oil? If one is hot, so is the other.. and if it isnt it will be very soon.

                        If you really wanted to be "Anal" as some guys i believe are mistakenly putting it... you would be looking for a fluid temp AND a core temp and averaging those values out.

                        The gauge in either location is going to give you an IDEA of what is going on in the trans which is the purpose of having it in the first place. If 10-15 degrees and a little variation really matters, then you should be at the GM proving grounds instead of LS1tech.

                        The statement that the pressure port doesnt variate is also false. My truck with the sensor in the test port and a stock trans, stall, etc would see temperatures all over the place during summer months depending on the driving conditions.
                        Last edited by JoeliusZ28; December 27th, 2010, 11:43 AM.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                          Right, but core temp has just as much to do with parts failure as fluid temp imo.

                          I really don't see the point of the arguement on tech. I see a bunch of: 'The pressure port doesnt give you an accurate reading of fluid' ... so what? thats like asking what fails first, the main bearing or the oil? If one is hot, so is the other.. and if it isnt it will be very soon.

                          If you really wanted to be "Anal" as some guys i believe are mistakenly putting it... you would be looking for a fluid temp AND a core temp and averaging those values out.

                          Pointless IMO, the gauge in either location is going to give you an IDEA of what is going on in the trans which is the purpose of having it in the first place. If 10-15 degrees and a little variation really matters, then you should be at the GM proving grounds instead of LS1tech.

                          The statement that the pressure port doesnt variate is also false. My truck with the sensor in the test port and a stock trans, stall, etc would see temperatures all over the place during summer months depending on the driving conditions.
                          That's a valid point too.. 10-20 degrees variation is nothing..
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                          • #28
                            btw i wasnt directing all that at you, just my contribution to the conversation
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                              btw i wasnt directing all that at you, just my contribution to the conversation
                              Oh I know Joel.. But your logic makes sense.. Everyone seemed to agree on a 10-20* variation.. realistically that's close enough for me..
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                              • #30
                                pressure port here and I have the same opinions on this matter that Joel stated. I'm just using it as a dummy gauge and if something goes wrong or it runs hotter than usual I'll know about it rather than having no idea.
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