Which Clutch??? -PROBLEM-

[99SSRhodes]

ok so today I was in shop and i got everything back in except the center consol. I bleed the hyd clutch lines. Started it up. (by the way the car is not on the ground just a few inches off the ground) Then when I put it in 1st, it jerks in and the wheels move as if in gear but whole time clutch is ALL the way in. When i press the break the engine wants to stall. So obvosly the clutch is not disengaeing all the way from the flywheel. So we bleed it more and more and more. Flushed the whole thing and still same problem. So I was done for today so i cleaned off everything so tomarrow we can check for any leaks, even tho we saw nothing leaking, it never did before, and the pedal had pressure. So is there something we were doing wrong. WE bleed it bu just letting it flow out when i cracked it loose then we tryed with a power bleeder then we tryed the classic tube in a cup method. The only thing we could come up with is if there was something wrong w/ my slave cylinder, even tho nothing was leaking and as far as i kno it was fine before.
Does anyone have any ideas. Has any one had this problem before.

Thanks,
Mike

[JoeliusZ28]

does the clutch pedal feel right? are you sure you ligned the slave cylinder up properly?

[SS4Matt]

definatly the slave......do you have to upgrade it at all? cause with my 98... i had to upgrade to a 2000+ slave cylinder cause the 98 and 99's were different and wouldn't fully disengauge the clutch... im guessing you might be in that situation?

[99SSRhodes]

ok so what do you mean by do i have to upgrade to a newwer clutch. Do u mean that my slave wont work with the new clutch, if so no one told me this before, not centerofrces site, witch told me everything i need is included and so did Lukavicth Performance. Also, remember mine is a 97

Joe- I nevered took out my slave cyliner thus i never realinged it, if you mean my throw-out bearing on my year and model its aself centering hydrolic throw-out bearing.

Thanks again,
Mike

[JoeliusZ28]

ok so what do you mean by do i have to upgrade to a newwer clutch. Do u mean that my slave wont work with the new clutch, if so no one told me this before, not centerofrces site, witch told me everything i need is included and so did Lukavicth Performance. Also, remember mine is a 97

Joe- I nevered took out my slave cyliner thus i never realinged it, if you mean my throw-out bearing on my year and model its aself centering hydrolic throw-out bearing.

Thanks again,
Mike

uhhhhhh... when i did my clutch, the slave cylinder, throwout bearing, and that activator arm thing all had to come out. If you didnt have to do any of that, you are working with an entirely different animal than i did.

[99SSRhodes]

ok so i just got done taking it all apart today. When i took the old slave out I did find a leak in it. I put the new one on and the pedal had pressure. But again my clutch wont disengage, its better this time but not how its supposed it be. When i start the car, on the ground this time, I can't put the shifter into any gear unless i stard it in that gear. Then the only way to take it out of gear is to either shut it off or get moveing fast enough. I dont know what do do now. It may be that Lukavich may have sold me the wrong clutch, but dont realy think that is it. So , I think I'm going to take it to Transmission Exchagne and tell them everything and see what they say.
Before I do that is there any suggestions anyone could give me??

[SS4Matt]

wow....how about some spacers inbetween the slave and the trans where it bolts on? i know mine came with a few different assortments of spacers so that the slave cylinder would sit further towards the clutch therefor making the slave able to (push out?)/extent further making your clutch release further? that's my only other idea...if that doesn't work....i don't know what would?

[99SSRhodes]

i didt find out some info about those spacers and those are only for the 98+ trannys, and if anything i need to go the other way. I have too much "stuff" in the length of the system. Theres no room for the clutch plate to come off the flywheel.

[SS4Matt]

hmm ok .... well yeah i do have a T56 6-speed not the 5speed...so that was my only guess? i don't really know what your trans and clutch setup looks like at all? sorry i guess i can't help you at all?

[99SSRhodes]

Update- ok so we found the problem the place that we sent my flywheel out to shaved too much off my flywheel, well they said that they shaved off 27th thous of an inch so i need a 27th thous of an inch spacer to put between my flywheel and crankshaft but they dont make them for my wheel, so w/e I got a new flywheel and I'm about to take it apart again to put that in.

Like they say third times a charm right

[Orange Terror]

Is it a Centerforce clutch? What one? I've heard of disengagement problems with the dual frictions on the 4th gens because the springs are heavy enough that the slave cylinders can't fully disengage them and you have to get a bigger slave cyl. I have a centerforce dual friction on my '80 Z28 but that has manual linkage and is fully adjustable. Only drawback is its a hell of a stiff pedal, but it grabs like no tomorrow. I love it.