Club Dues Discussion

Lets hear some discussion on club dues please.

Some things I'd like to know:

What will be included in membership?
Some clubs give members club shirts and other paraphenalia as well as a newsletter.

Should there be different levels of membership?
For those who want the club paraphenalia should pay more and for those who don't want those may get a discounted rate.

Should the newsletter be published via the internet or in print?
If in print assume that there will be a cost to produce them and ship them.

How should they be collected?
Do we want yearly dues, quarterly, ect.

Do we even want dues?
Dues are funds used to promote the club, support club functions, and for general fees such as licensing anf such.

If we want dues, what is fair?
Groups like SLP have $15 Annual dues. Can we accomplish what we want on that amount?

How will the dues be collected?
In person, by mail, or via paypal?

[WMCC Gary]

Ben, I answered you questions below with what WMCC does.

What will be included in membership?
WMCC includes with your Membership Newsletter for 12 months, A WMCC T-shirt, a WMCC Window Decal, and the BEST group of friends you could ever have.


Should there be different levels of membership?
NO, it just becomes confusing and hard to track.

Should the newsletter be published via the internet or in print?
WMCC does both. We send Newsletters out via e-mail, Club website, and Hardcopy via US mail. Just starting out with a new club I would say just go with the first 2. It will be a huge cost savings.

How should dues be collected?

We WMCC have yearly Dues. Due on Jan. 1st


Do we even want dues?
I see no way you can run a club without them. There are to many expenses involved.


If we want dues, what is fair?
WMCC dues are $30 for the first family member and $15 dollars for a spouse.

How will the dues be collected?
In person, by mail, or via paypal?
WMCC collects dues in person and by mail. But I see no reason not to use Paypal other than the fees.

Hope this helps.

[phoenix_rising]

Thanks for the input Gary!

[ezysk]

Adding on to the above.

I agree for the most part.
I think we should start simple for the 1st year, and add more features the following years.


What will be included in membership?
WMCC includes with your Membership Newsletter for 12 months
I agree but it should email based the 1st year.
A WMCC T-shirt,
Not the 1st year, maybe in 6 months depending on membership.
Plus, coming up with a cool design would be cool.
Would like to have a shirt I would be prowd to wear.
a WMCC Window Decal,
Awesome Idea.. I would say the Decal is a must.
and the BEST group of friends you could ever have.
Nah.. Screw the friends.. Kidding..


Should there be different levels of membership?
NO, it just becomes confusing and hard to track.
Agree
Should the newsletter be published via the internet or in print?
WMCC does both. We send Newsletters out via e-mail, Club website, and Hardcopy via US mail. Just starting out with a new club I would say just go with the first 2. It will be a huge cost savings.
Email only for now..

How should dues be collected?

We WMCC have yearly Dues. Due on Jan. 1st
Mob Enforcer (LOL) ... Annually, my check should be fine. Unless someone wants to setup Paypal. Just don't send anything out till the check clears.


Do we even want dues?
I see no way you can run a club without them. There are to many expenses involved.

Exactly.. Kind of need them, or its just a big buddies list.
Unless you are rich?? Are you?
If we want dues, what is fair?
WMCC dues are $30 for the first family member and $15 dollars for a spouse.
Sounds good to me.. Especially at first, when you have smaller membership.
How will the dues be collected?
In person, by mail, or via paypal?
WMCC collects dues in person and by mail. But I see no reason not to use Paypal other than the fees.
Mob Enforcer (LOL) ... Annually, my check should be fine. Unless someone wants to setup Paypal. Just don't send anything out till the check clears.

[OIF1VET]

I agree for the most part.
I think we should start simple for the 1st year, and add more features the following years.


What will be included in membership?
WMCC includes with your Membership Newsletter for 12 months
I agree but it should email based the 1st year.
A WMCC T-shirt,
Not the 1st year, maybe in 6 months depending on membership.
Plus, coming up with a cool design would be cool.
Would like to have a shirt I would be prowd to wear.
a WMCC Window Decal,
Awesome Idea.. I would say the Decal is a must.
and the BEST group of friends you could ever have.
Nah.. Screw the friends.. Kidding..


Should there be different levels of membership?
NO, it just becomes confusing and hard to track.
Agree
Should the newsletter be published via the internet or in print?
WMCC does both. We send Newsletters out via e-mail, Club website, and Hardcopy via US mail. Just starting out with a new club I would say just go with the first 2. It will be a huge cost savings.
Email only for now..

How should dues be collected?

We WMCC have yearly Dues. Due on Jan. 1st
Mob Enforcer (LOL) ... Annually, my check should be fine. Unless someone wants to setup Paypal. Just don't send anything out till the check clears.


Do we even want dues?
I see no way you can run a club without them. There are to many expenses involved.

Exactly.. Kind of need them, or its just a big buddies list.
Unless you are rich?? Are you?
If we want dues, what is fair?
WMCC dues are $30 for the first family member and $15 dollars for a spouse.
Sounds good to me.. Especially at first, when you have smaller membership.
How will the dues be collected?
In person, by mail, or via paypal?
WMCC collects dues in person and by mail. But I see no reason not to use Paypal other than the fees.
Mob Enforcer (LOL) ... Annually, my check should be fine. Unless someone wants to setup Paypal. Just don't send anything out till the check clears.

I agree with the above.

[CHMLEON]

Looks fine to me.

[1bad83ta]

[MyBadZ28]

Sounds OK to me. Got to come up with a nice looking shirts. and got to have a decal. and collect paypal for sure. Annual meetings in a neutral area also. even if it is to drink a few wobble pops and B/S

[02hawk796]

You might consider skipping the dues issue for the firsdt year. Fundage can be garnered by sales of said merchandise, fees and charges for events (non-"members" can pay, too!!!) and such. The dues issue can always be brought up later, and even scheduled for consideration, like a year in the future.
A local club is not much, but has weekly events, and an annual car show, with sponsors soloctited to pay for most of the trophies and prizes, and still $ ,left over for several scholarships. They charge $5 per year, getting a newletter emailed or posted to you.

Newsletters can be net-based, but then just printed off the web to be sent to the non-webbers or others who desire mailings. The printer ink, paper, and postage shouldn't be a major expense, or the requester could pay that price, but better yet the whole group pay the price, and save on the members who only want it via web.

other than a t-dshirt that probably won't be in my size, color, or fabric (100% cotton, pocket, short sleeve, black, 2XL), what else would the dues get me? probably nothing I could use for starters.

[9T8W66]

You might consider skipping the dues issue for the firsdt year. Fundage can be garnered by sales of said merchandise, fees and charges for events (non-"members" can pay, too!!!) and such. The dues issue can always be brought up later, and even scheduled for consideration, like a year in the future.
A local club is not much, but has weekly events, and an annual car show, with sponsors soloctited to pay for most of the trophies and prizes, and still $ ,left over for several scholarships. They charge $5 per year, getting a newletter emailed or posted to you.

Newsletters can be net-based, but then just printed off the web to be sent to the non-webbers or others who desire mailings. The printer ink, paper, and postage shouldn't be a major expense, or the requester could pay that price, but better yet the whole group pay the price, and save on the members who only want it via web.

other than a t-dshirt that probably won't be in my size, color, or fabric (100% cotton, pocket, short sleeve, black, 2XL), what else would the dues get me? probably nothing I could use for starters.

I Agree

You need to keep it Simple and see what kind of Reaction you get at the Events. I know from experience that reactions on the web don't always transition into real world Events.
Better to play it Safe at first. JMO

[MiT/A'96]

My 2 cents ... I think you guys are headed in the right direction.Asking help and questions from other clubs (WMCC )is smart.Thev'e been there ,done that ... Start off slow & then the second year ..GIVE em' Hell ..FULL throttle

[00firebird]

i think dues might be needed to get things going but it is also going to make it way harder to recruit more members willing to pay such an amount. which will also in turn make things much harder to get going.. and the more members the better

[ezysk]

30 bucks a year doesn't sound like much at all.
Especially since it costs more than that to fill up your F-Body twice with Gas.
Sure, I agree that some people will only join free stuff, 30 bucks really isn't that much.
Not sure if anyone has gone to a movie lately, I mean really..
Sure, if you really want to get the people in the club that can't spare 30 bucks, then you could always give them the payment plan option.
$2.50 a month..
Or for member events only, if they want to go and they are not a member, charge a fee and have that fee go toward their membership, after a couple of events, they have just paid for their membership without even realizing it.
Just my 2 cents, hope that counts towards my membership fee, thus I should only owe 29.98 now.

[CHMLEON]

Ben, I just want to clarify. All members will be paying Dues including the Officer and Staff correct?

Just wondering since if Officer and Staff did not pay Dues then it would cut inital funds for starting the club in third.

I have not problem with $30. Just tell me when.

[phoenix_rising]

My understanding was that ALL members would pay dues. The only exceptions to this rule would be for people like Brian and the other Honary members. They don't own Firebirds and I doubt they would benefit from membership in a Firebird club unless they owned both a Camaro and a Firebird. I am going to be dishing out the same amount as everyone else. If we all think $30 would do the job that is fine. It sounds like it should be.

Currently Jeff (81DaytonaPaceCar) is working with me on the back account situation. We need to find a treasurer to add to the accounts. Jeff's wife may be able to step in if needed, but I would not to have to burden her if there were another option. Once the bank account is set up, I will ask for payment of dues. Until then just hold onto it.

Thanks David