Fuel Pump (Trap door method) HELP!

[WMCCjames]

Third gens are more of a reason to cut up. But if it doesn't benefit you because the fuel system is different than no point. 3rd gens are far from a collectors item.

Come to think of it, you're right...where did I put my cutting torch....

[Curt_irocz]

you dont necessarily need a full 360 roatation, ive done it on water heaters with multiple line next to each other and could only get a 180-210 degree roatation out of it, it just takes a little extra effort to make up for the lost amount of rotation but doable i think

it would be very hard, almost imposible to do it with a tube cutter. Other wise It would be the best idea.

Third gens are more of a reason to cut up. But if it doesn't benefit you because the fuel system is different than no point. 3rd gens are far from a collectors item.

No one said It was a collector item.

[TylerT/AZ28]

i believe with any person a car has value according to what it is, 4th gens arent valueable to some people others dont like 2nd gens, some dont like 5ths, or 1st, or thirds. what doesnt make sense is that even though they all bring this site together theres still arguemnet over which is better. just some food for thought there

[ThreeHonks]

Third gens are more of a reason to cut up. But if it doesn't benefit you because the fuel system is different than no point. 3rd gens are far from a collectors item.

[TylerT/AZ28]

not nice rust free thirdgens. ask me how i know

[ThreeHonks]

Disagree, that trap door damn well should have been there from the factory. Lazy people come up with the smartest solutions.

So far all of 0 people have noticed it on my car, and it has caused all of 0 problems.

couldnt help but laugh at the complete truth!!

OMG guys, dont cut up your 10 year old f body!! There are only 500,000 others out there! What a travesty!

[TylerT/AZ28]

you dont necessarily need a full 360 roatation, ive done it on water heaters with multiple line next to each other and could only get a 180-210 degree roatation out of it, it just takes a little extra effort to make up for the lost amount of rotation but doable i think

[bgtaylor]

im assuming a really safe way to cut the lines without having to round them off is a plumbers tubing cutter

The only problem would be having enough room to complete a rotation with the plumbing cutters. The lines are tightly together, but a good idea nonetheless.

[bgtaylor]

Well the trap door wasn't by choice. The previous owner had it done already so I'm just trying to make the best of a bad situation. Covering up the trap door won't be difficult. I have some sheet metal and have some slight knowledge of fabrication between my father and I. Before I dug back into the trap door you couldn't even hear the noise coming through the opening. I will take pics soon of the door.

[WMCCjames]

I would never recommend doing the trap door on a 3rd gen unless you have some decent sheet metal fab skills and are willing to cut and splice the steal lines with JIC flared unions.

[TylerT/AZ28]

im assuming a really safe way to cut the lines without having to round them off is a plumbers tubing cutter

[bgtaylor]

well the the pump initially went out at an Autozone parking lot of all places. It ran fine all the way back from work and all the way to autozone. Then once I left autozone and began to start the car it ran for about 2 sec then bogged down and died. After that I tried to restart it and so on it continued to die immediately. I called my father and initially thought it ran out of gas because the fuel gauge doesn't work. We believe the float isn't there or may not be hooked up. Like I said I am still a newbie. My father came out with a gas canister and we filled her up. Tried to start it up and the same as before happened. It sometimes ran for a second and then immediately died. There was already a hole cut to reach the gas tank from a previous owner. Very poorly cut I may add, but nevertheless it was still there. We then pulled the carpet and panels back to reach the top of the sending unit. We noticed the pump didn't prime when the car was in the on position but not fully turned forward. Thus thinking the pump was taking a crap. My father knocked on the pump while I turned the key forward and like magic it started with slight difficulty and has sense been ok. How would I go upon checking the fuel relay. I know where it is at but didn't think it was a problem.

My car does like to stall because of a TPS issue. The PO jerry-rigged the TPS to fit on the housing of the throttlebody. I'm stuck because I have some things that are more important right now to get done before winter so I'm stuck waiting to purchase a throttle body. Once a new one is purchased, I will then buy a new TPS and the problem should go away. I know the TPS is the issue because you can slightly knock on it while the car is running and the car will die. I have tested this a couple times the TPS like slip because the hole that lets the TPS bolt on to the side of the TB (throttle body) is stripped. We since retapped and it still does but not as bad as it used to.

Anyway, back to the issue at hand, my next step will be to either cut the lines and install hose with worm gears and make sure the pump is the issue. I think the pump is stock so it probably should be replaced anyway. I have already purchased it so no sense having it sit on the shelf.

Thanks for the info thus far.

Brain.

[Darren]

I just cut them I think I used a good pair of tin snips then rounded the hole back out and then I used some good high quality rubber fuel hose with hose clamps. I used two for bother sides a little over kill in my opinion. Then I used self taping sheet metal screws to hold it down and then some clean silicone sealer to create a good seal so no fumes entered the car.

Quick question tho, are you sure the pump is bad? Check the relay before cutting the floor. It's on the drivers side fire wall there are two there and one controls the fuel pump... If you need any advice let me know it's still pretty fresh in my mind.

I'm with Joel it caused 0 problems in my car and once I sealed it up no one could tell a difference either.

[bgtaylor]

Well I did some searching Darren and I saw how you did it, but I have one question. How did you cut the lines and with what? Any precautions when cutting because I don't want a fire. Just new to this sort of thing. Thanks for the nice thread also.

It sounds like I may just cut the lines. If all else fails I will drop the tank if necessary. (But hopefully not)

[JoeliusZ28]

dont think the 3rd gens disconnect on top. pretty sure the sending unit has long metal lines like you saw.

make it so difficult???? the tank is supposed to be dropped to change the pump. in my opinion the trap door method was thought of by lazy people(or hacks LOL)

Disagree, that trap door damn well should have been there from the factory. Lazy people come up with the smartest solutions.

So far all of 0 people have noticed it on my car, and it has caused all of 0 problems.