Meet & Greet Opinion Poll

[meissen]

Hey guys,

Please note: The results of this poll does NOT in any way shape or form effect the 2009 Meet & Greet. We're already talking about 2010 believe it or not and we wanted to get some opinions from everyone here.

MiFbody.com has historically been a social site for anyone and everyone with a love of FBodies. We even welcome people to the site who do not own FBodies but just want a place to hang out because they had a Camaro or a Firebird years ago, because they like either car now, or maybe because they just like the crowd. Whatever the case, we've never said "No, you can't join because you don't have an FBody."

While discussing the Meet & Greet and where we want it to go in the future for being the premier regional FBody event for the Great Lakes region, the topic of having non-FBodies as part of the show came up.

So, please give us your thoughts and opinions. No side will be debated, just state what you think and let's leave it at that.

Would you prefer that our event only allow FBodies in the show or do you not care that there might be a mix of cars at the show as long as it's an FBody-centric show?

We're open to ideas and suggestions - within reason - and wanted to see what everyone thinks, so please vote and post your feedback. :) If you can elaborate on why you feel one way or another, please elaborate in your reply.

[Chicklet]

fbodies only
The way I see it, there are many many other car shows and clubs for other types of cars. Our M&Gs are exclusive and unique because we only have firebirds and camaros. I like it that way! :)

[GOR1LA]

Choose the wrong one!! oh well. I think it should be fbodies only. I wouldn't mind a few exotic cars being there. NO crappy imports tho!!

[LS1Phoenix]

Mainly Fbodys but obviously there's ppl on this site that don't have an Fbody for specific reason's and are still welcome. And I'm plannin on bringin some friend's down with me to go to Cedar Point on Sunday but can't fit them all in my car. So I think any car should be welcome to park w/ us or maybe just park off to the side, whatever.

[tenpin842]

yeah don't get me wrong I love all cars. (even we have a couple older Chevelle's)
But this is 99.9% an F body site. I think we should keep it an F body car show.

I mean look at how many cars we get now, It's a HUGE success! (awesome job!)

LOL...I even feel bad posting pics of non-Fbodys.


So I hope I don't hurt any feelings by saying F body show only.

And NO I do not mind corvettes and other MiFbody members non F body cars.
I think the point is NOT to open it up anymore to non Fbody people.

[nascarnate326]

I say let everyone come. It would be cool to have the GP club there.

The catch, is that fbodies get the best parking/location and are the *stars* of the event.

I see no problem with a section for GP's Vettes' Mustangs...ect. We all know the superior muscle car :)

[meissen]

. It would be cool to have the GP club there.
Sorry I don't think that would ever be considered - if we let a whole club of non-FBodies go then it's no longer an FBody centric show anymore. While I know that's a really vague line, I'm ok with someone saying "Hey, my buddy has a twin turbo Corvette Z06 that wants to come, do you mind?" but someone saying "Hey I got 40 GPs that want to come..." Hmmm, while the large number of cars is cool we usually only count the fbodies in our statistics anyway

[JoeliusZ28]

I voted mildly support.

I think it should be exactly as the title of the event states. It is a michigan F-BODY meet but it is also a michigan f-body ASSOCIATION meet. therefore, if you are a member here and you want to meet people you should be able to bring whatever you want.

[Blue_Thunder]

It should be a Fbody event, If others who are members of the site want or need to bring a different car then its no problem. But just letting anyone in will deminish the event imo. This is the Annual Fbody Meet & Greet.

[my95z28]

I agree with Joel, it is an F-BODY event. If people have other cool cars that they want to bring, thats fine, just park it in another lot or something. I have zero issues with people not having an F-body and being on the site though, hell, I might be one of them before too long.

[Robert Lawler]

I'm ok having other non f-body's at the show as long as the people bringing them are members of this site. They could be the side show.

[OIF1VET]

I agree with Joel, it is an F-BODY event. If people have other cool cars that they want to bring, thats fine, just park it in another lot or something. My thoughts as well, I don't mind none fbodies, but they should park seperate from the Fbods.. My $.02....

[PWND3r]

I see it this way. Yes it's an F-Body site, but like stated not everyone owns an F-Body. I feel if someone wanted to bring say a Civic, but they love Camaro's, why can't they bring their car and theirself to the show?

A car show is exactly that, a car show. Why stereotype? Why harrass other's because of what they drive? Who are you to say "No, you can't come"? Last I knew you're allowed to like and to drive whatever you want. I drive a Honda Civic as my daily and I have a Camaro as my race car. I don't get the point about hating?

My brother might tag along with me and my buddies to the show. My brother drives an MR2, is he going to get shit for bringing his "Import" to the meet? If so, I'll definately have a lot to say. I don't get the whole "It's an import, let's make fun of it" thing. Why, because they're 4 cylinders?

If people like the cars, show interest, don't bad talk, enjoy themselve's and others, and have something to bring. Then so be it. Welcome all!

[Lucky SOB]

well im definitely not a fan of tuners so i would like to see them have to park in a higher up lot than where we park. I dont want some SRT4 or civic or w/e next to my firebird, it's just not right. hahaha. I would also recommend parking all other non-fbody cars (hopefully muscle cars) up there also. There should be the 2 main event lots, as usual, for only fbodies.

[my95z28]

No issues AT ALL with other people COMING to the show. Hell, we had people that were just randomly at the park walk through the show. That is a non issue. The only thing that I don't think should happen, is you are walking down the line, and have it go, 1998 Z28, 1993 Trans-Am, 1996 SS, 2000 Honda Civic, 2002 SS. See what I mean? Hell, they can all park together, I bet some people will go over and look at the other cars. I probably will. I just don't think they should be intermixed within our show.

[PWND3r]

No issues AT ALL with other people COMING to the show. Hell, we had people that were just randomly at the park walk through the show. That is a non issue. The only thing that I don't think should happen, is you are walking down the line, and have it go, 1998 Z28, 1993 Trans-Am, 1996 SS, 2000 Honda Civic, 2002 SS. See what I mean? Hell, they can all park together, I bet some people will go over and look at the other cars. I probably will. I just don't think they should be intermixed within our show.

So what you're saying is the show has to be perfectly organized? We're segregating cars now?

[TSTONE]

actually kyle, nor we are doing anything right now - this is an open discussion about peoples individual opinions and thought for the future of this event

lets all try and keep our comments directed at the topic and not single each other out

[Bad_Z28]

I think it should be aimed towards mostly f-bodies, but i don't think non f-body cars should be excluded. Many people on here have more than one car, and may not want to bring their f-body to the M&G for whatever reason.....

[Darrenscamaro]

This website is www.miFBODY.com (http://www.miFBODY.com) This is a F-Body organized show, that being said I think the center stage the highlight of the show should be the F-Bodies at the show. With that being said we have MANY members who do not drive a F-Body, I say WELCOME! Whoever comes to the show and whatever they drive should be allowed at the show. As for opening it up to other cars who are not members haven't we posted on other sites as well? I realize they are F-Body sites but other style cars may show up. Also no one has said that anyone will be shunned or made fun of for bringing a turner to the show, but I agree that they should not park with all the F-Bodies at the show, whats wrong with having them park in another lot?

[SoulTerror]

I have no problems with it myself. 2 years ago I think we had a couple Evo's at the show and it didn't bug me one bit. Maybe it's because this is the only car show I go to.

[bigjon88]

My thoughts as well, I don't mind none fbodies, but they should park seperate from the Fbods.. My $.02....
agreed

[LS1Phoenix]

No issues AT ALL with other people COMING to the show. Hell, we had people that were just randomly at the park walk through the show. That is a non issue. The only thing that I don't think should happen, is you are walking down the line, and have it go, 1998 Z28, 1993 Trans-Am, 1996 SS, 2000 Honda Civic, 2002 SS. See what I mean? Hell, they can all park together, I bet some people will go over and look at the other cars. I probably will. I just don't think they should be intermixed within our show.
I agree w/ not putting a civic, neon, or mustang or something along that line in w/ our Fbody's, but I don't think its a big deal if there's a vette in here and there or chevelle, nice muscle cars. But I guess that's goin to be hard to divide up so it will most likely have to be either Fbody's only, or park where you want. I don't want to get stuck parking somewhere far away either b/c there's too many non-fbodys around.

[my95z28]

actually kyle, nor we are doing anything right now - this is an open discussion about peoples individual opinions and thought for the future of this event

lets all try and keep our comments directed at the topic and not single each other out

Understood. I wasn't in anyway trying to single anyone out, Joe didn't seem to understand what I meant b my post, therefore I was trying to clarify. I'll go ahead and bow out of this thread now.

[nascarnate326]

actually kyle, nor we are doing anything right now - this is an open discussion about peoples individual opinions and thought for the future of this event

lets all try and keep our comments directed at the topic and not single each other out


How was he singling anyone out? Is there anyone with a civic here?

Just have the area we always have for fbodies, and the one below it for fbodies, and throw everyone else that wants to come in the lot above us.

"So what you're saying is the show has to be perfectly organized? We're segregating cars now?"

Um ya, we did last year. door to door fbodies, except on the ends.
16259

[OIF1VET]

So what you're saying is the show has to be perfectly organized? We're segregating cars now?I welcome all to the M&G.. No issues at all with who comes, fbod or not.. I, just, would like to see the fbods together.. My personal opinion.. I'm coming, no matter what, anyways!!!!!:-D:-D:-D

[c0ncEpT]

I welcome all to the M&G.. No issues at all with who comes, fbod or not.. I, just, would like to see the fbods together.. My personal opinion..
I agree with that statement 100%

This is an Fbody specific event. But I have no problems with other cars coming as well. We are all car enthusiasts period.

I just think all the fbodys should be together. Other cars should be parked one row up or something.

[TSTONE]

Understood. I wasn't in anyway trying to single anyone out, Joe didn't seem to understand what I meant b my post, therefore I was trying to clarify. I'll go ahead and bow out of this thread now.


How was he singling anyone out? Is there anyone with a civic here?



sorry guys my point wasn't to single out either (i was pointing out that neither kyle nor we were making any decisions at this time - poor punctuation - "kyle," ) but to ask that we address the topic and not necessarily focus on someones else's comments

[MP81]

I guess I'm "mildly" against non-Fbodies being there, but I guess what that means is I'd rather it be all Fbodies, but a few exceptions are all right - like a few Vettes, GTOs, etc... My buddy has a GN that he'd like to bring - it's American, it fits.

My Cobalt, IMO, really doesn't fit...and I don't plan on parking on the same level or mixed in with the Fbodies...maybe a level up or down, on one of the ends, but not intermixed - I'm looking into possibly bringing a car that a friend of my dad's owns (Fbody), just so I can park it in the show.

[Z28ISGR8]

I think it should strictly be an F-body event. But at the same time didn't you say that the parking lot at Kensington is like two or three levels Brian? So why not have all the F-bodies park in the first and second lot and than in a seperate lot have the non F-body cars park their if they want to. I just don't want to see them intertwined. My 2 cents.

[PWND3r]

Hm.. I'm not sure if I'll be showing up or not now. If I do, I am parking next to my brother whether you guys like it or not. I know no one is making the rules now or pointing in one direction, but you're opinions are starting to make me realize why people stereotype all of us. It will always happens no matter what, but there's a reason why.

I mean I see why you guys want it this way, shit it'll be my first time attending so what's my say in this? I've attented Ford specific show's. Which all the different types are kept together, but this isn't some big fancy meet with trophies and all that other good stuff. It's called the "Meet and Greet" for a reason; I take it? So you can Meet and Greet other's who are into F-Bodies and the like? I say we keep the F-bodies, and the show cars in one spot, and keep a lot for people who drive their daily's up there.

I'm not trying to start anything. I'm simply stating my point and opinion. Kyle A. please do not take this the wrong way and include yourself in this. I'd like to see why everyone think's this way.

[Lucky SOB]

Joe, dont take these comments the wrong way and not come because of them. to me it seems like everyone is cool with non-fbody, domestic or import, showing up. i agree. totally fine, the more the merrier. i just think that there should be fbody only lots, then a lot for all other cars. this is how it usually is too. we have 2 lots for fbodies, one for everything else. i can definitely appreciate more than just fbodies. as long as this show doesnt turn into hot import nights or nopi im cool with a few tuners. haha

[MP81]

but this isn't some big fancy meet with trophies and all that other good stuff.

Actually, there are trophies




I say we keep the F-bodies, and the show cars in one spot, and keep a lot for people who drive their daily's up there.


But at the same time didn't you say that the parking lot at Kensington is like two or three levels Brian? So why not have all the F-bodies park in the first and second lot and than in a seperate lot have the non F-body cars park their if they want to. I just don't want to see them intertwined. My 2 cents.

Yep, this is my thinking exactly.

[TSTONE]

Yep - there will be trophies

http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=25133&highlight=trophies

http://meissenation.com/pictures/2009-03-31/Awards%20001.jpg

[MiT/A'96]

Ok... Here's m y 3 Cents .......
I'm for letting anyone show up,but I think if you ISOLATE that leaves a bad taste between car enthusist
which we all are.There are people that just Hate non fbody cars.To me thats plain stupid !!! Cause next you start hating the person.
Ever stop & think maybe ,just maybe thats all that person can afford to drive(Neon),but he still takes as much pride in his ride as you do in your " Fbody "..

Just becarefull how you hate cause one day you might be driving that NEON !!!!

This is just my opinion..so no hate mail ,PLEASE...:lol:

[OIF1VET]

Just becarefull how you hate cause one day you might be driving that NEON !!!!


I don't think anyone hates anyone... In fact I dare say "Hate" has nothing to do with anything in this thread..

[SoulTerror]

I think it should just be the way it always has been. Just park wherever there is a free spot.

[PWND3r]

Ok... Here's m y 3 Cents .......
I'm for letting anyone show up,but I think if you ISOLATE that leaves a bad taste between car enthusist
which we all are.There are people that just Hate non fbody cars.To me thats plain stupid !!! Cause next you start hating the person.
Ever stop & think maybe ,just maybe thats all that person can afford to drive(Neon),but he still takes as much pride in his ride as you do in your " Fbody "..

Just becarefull how you hate cause one day you might be driving that NEON !!!!

This is just my opinion..so no hate mail ,PLEASE...:lol:

Thank you. I guess I couldn't spit it out the right way because I'm used to the idiots on xceed :lol::mad:

[MiT/A'96]

I don't think anyone hates anyone... In fact I dare say "Hate" has nothing to do with anything in this thread..

To clearify...I didn't say anyone " on here " hated anyone,
but there out there ..Its a fact,heard it too many times !!

[78mali350]

So....for someone who is 80% sure of coming and having to make a 675+ mile trip to get there honestly even though I drive american Muscle I would have no problem parking separate from the f-bodies. I love all the f-bodies and for me it would be a cool experience just to see them all lined up anyways. If I have to park next to an import or anything for that matter it would not make any difference to me, it's what i am used to. SO I do think it would be good to at least group together the f-bodies just also for the fact it's an f-body site. there's my .02 cents, and if all goes according to plan this weekend on the car I will be signing up for the show next week!!!!

[JoeliusZ28]

Hm.. I'm not sure if I'll be showing up or not now. If I do, I am parking next to my brother whether you guys like it or not. I know no one is making the rules now or pointing in one direction, but you're opinions are starting to make me realize why people stereotype all of us. It will always happens no matter what, but there's a reason why.

I mean I see why you guys want it this way, shit it'll be my first time attending so what's my say in this? I've attented Ford specific show's. Which all the different types are kept together, but this isn't some big fancy meet with trophies and all that other good stuff. It's called the "Meet and Greet" for a reason; I take it? So you can Meet and Greet other's who are into F-Bodies and the like? I say we keep the F-bodies, and the show cars in one spot, and keep a lot for people who drive their daily's up there.

I'm not trying to start anything. I'm simply stating my point and opinion. Kyle A. please do not take this the wrong way and include yourself in this. I'd like to see why everyone think's this way.

Agreed and tony is right.

Trophies or not (we never had em before) - a competitive car show has entry fees. I dont think politics belong in a community-based, FREE event. You arent paying to be there, therefore you have no exclusive rights to anything. the show organizer can do whatever he/she wants. IMO you arent better than someone else just cause you drive an fbody and they dont. I like to think we hold ourselves to a higher standard than pissy mustang drivers. Our prizes have been for fun and I hope it stays that way unless we change the name of the event

If it were my show my only rule would be no "groups" of other cars. Other groups can have their own show, this is ours.

[redfbird99]

Why the heck would this even be up for debate? This is the MICHIGAN FBODY ASSOCIATION, our car show would meen that its for FBODIES ONLY, you don't see me cruising into Berger ALL CHEVY show with my pontiac do you? Of course there is nothing wrong with people with other cars looking and admiring the fbodies, thats why there are like 5 nearby parking lots that the can park in. You let one non f-body in, then everyone thinks its just a show for all cars, and this isn't and never should be.

[MiT/A'96]

Why the heck would this even be up for debate? This is the MICHIGAN FBODY ASSOCIATION, our car show would meen that its for FBODIES ONLY, you don't see me cruising into Berger ALL CHEVY show with my pontiac do you? Of course there is nothing wrong with people with other cars looking and admiring the fbodies, thats why there are like 5 nearby parking lots that the can park in. You let one non f-body in, then everyone thinks its just a show for all cars, and this isn't and never should be.
************************************************** *

Oh DEREK !!!!!! Just get me some of them there PIZZA PUFFS !!!! :lol:

[Casey]

I've been on the other side of the fence considering I've owned Mustangs and imports, but personally I feel like it's more impressive if the "show" part is all just f-bodies. People with other cars should feel more than welcome to come hang out and whatnot, but if this is Meet and Greet is marketed as an F-body car show, it should be just that. I can go see a parking lot full of a mix of cars every friday night here locally. To be honest I think it'd be cool to even segregate it further within f-bodies (say, all 4th gen firebirds park together, 4th gen camaros park together, 3rd gen firebirds park together, etc) even though that would probably be close to impossible to plan and have go smoothly. :lol:

[mikek18]

Im ok with them coming but believe there should be a seperate section. I wanna see all fbodies lined up. Especially when I take the group pics. i dont want to see a cavalier in the middle of some bad ass fbodies. I can appreciate any one in any car coming. just think there should be a little seperation.

[JoeliusZ28]

Why the heck would this even be up for debate?

If you attended and paid attention at any of the previous year's events, you would have noticed that we have always had nonfbodies, and furthermore that no one got their panties in a bunch over it.

[ICEPICK]

never been to one till this year but fbody cars in the main area and otheres in the back but not other clubs involved or they can take up some of the slack. having a couple isnt a big deal but if 4o mustangs show up or 40 grand am/prix or otheres just isnt right. but a couple nice vetts with big blowers are nice to look at:-D

[Formula Z]

some people are acting like parking in the other lots is a huge deal when the other lots are very close to the main one us f body owners use. i dont care what cars show but non f bodies should park in one of the other lots, and if they are mixed in with ours in the upper or lower lot, it shouldnt be a rusted cavalier or neon type car. those should park slightly further away at least until we are sure most everyone else has shown. if then there is a huge gap between the cars, then they can move closer. i havent minded the other cars that have shown the last couple years, but if we open this up like this, we are asking for a disorganized mess and it will no longer be our f body meet and greet. the whole point of the michigan f body meet and greet is to get F-Bodies together. plenty of room for everyone, but come on. and if they are not a participating member here, they should park elsewhere, unless its an f body. lets not screw up this awesome thing we have here

[ICEPICK]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[mikek18]

Also dont think there should be any trophies for non fbodies

[Yoshi94]

Also dont think there should be any trophies for non fbodies

werd

[redfbird99]

If you attended and paid attention at any of the previous year's events, you would have noticed that we have always had nonfbodies, and furthermore that no one got their panties in a bunch over it.
Joel you are better than that, common now. First off, I've only missed the first meet and greet because I was only 16 and had other plans.. So I'm not sure what you are trying to get at there?? and of course nobody has gotten their panties in a bunch yet because the non-fbodies there have only been like 5 each year. The point I was making is if we advertise others as welcome addition to our show more and more will come and frankly that would defeat the entire purpose of an FBODY meet and greet if they parked with the fbodies.

[JoeliusZ28]

I guess it comes down to what your interpretation of "premeire f-body event" is. Brian said nothing about "advertising" the event that way, thats not what is being asked.

For me, i think its more of an issue of do I want the meet and greet to be a fancy professional competitive car show, or do i want it to be a meet and greet?

...personally i dont think the formula should be altered but its not my event, brian can do what he wants.

[meissen]

Hey guys - let's try and tone down the hostility in the thread. This was NOT meant to stir a hornets nest. We're simply discussing amongst the admins what we want to do NEXT YEAR to take this show to another level.

THIS THREAD HAS ABSOLUTELY NO IMPACT ON THIS YEAR'S MEET & GREET. EVERYONE THIS YEAR WILL PARK WHERE EVER (FOR THE MOST PART, WE DO HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR 'SPECIAL SPOTS') BUT THIS YEAR'S MEET AND GREET HAS NO BEARING ON THIS THREAD.

That said - again, this is just about next year. Everything is up in the air for next year - we might drastically change the show, we might keep everything the same. What I think everyone can agree with is that we really want to make this show the "BEST DAMN FBODY SHOW AROUND" - meaning Great Lakes region. As it is, we're the only annual FBody show in Michigan that I'm aware of. We might even be the largest annual all-FBody show in the Great Lakes region already, but we just want to keep raising the bar every year to make this eventually a nationally-recognized "must attend" event.

That said, there will never be any hostility towards non-fbodies, and I can tell you without a doubt that as long as we are at Kensington Metro Park we will always allow non-FBodies into the event. Where they park - well that's what the discussion is about. If we do change and go to some place other than Kensington, have a $5 entry fee, and we have more control over the lot - then yeah, we might make it FBody only and anyone that doesn't have an FBody is a spectator and parking outside of the show entirely. We'll see - it's all open for discussion but we just want to make this show the "Best damn show" there is for the state of Michigan and FBody owners.

No matter what, we're always going to keep the "Meet and Greet" feel - but in future years we might just make it feel more like an official show, that's all.

[Plum Nuts]

In the spirit of the show being a meet and greet, I do feel that non fbody cars are welcome but also feel there should be a seperate area or row for them to park. Its not a big deal, other years we have had a variety of other cars. they usually were parked in the 1st or 3rd section, this year if the weather is nice to us, we will probably need 2 sections for fbody cars. We have always had a non fbody prize catagory.

[MiT/A'96]

Quoted by Brian Meissen " But in future years we might just make it feel more like an official show "...........


Brian ,very well put !! And a smart idea ...to me ...:lol:

[Phantom383]

Ya, I'm with a lot of the guys on here.
Nothing against anyone just showing up or coming but I don't want some rusty car next to mine.
I know some guys can't afford do put insurance on their cars for the summer but maybe just do it for the M&G

I do think we need to have a place for no-fbody's.

[tenpin842]

I agree with most.
Like I said this is a 99% f body site.

Anyone who wants to come to our meet and greet should be more then welcome.
BUT should respect our "F body show" and park in one of the other parking lots. We are what we are.

[jderry]

Choose the wrong one!! oh well. I think it should be fbodies only. I wouldn't mind a few exotic cars being there. NO crappy imports tho!!
agreed
but i think if a few people have some nice american muscle cars the that would be cool too

[Schuby87]

I have been very happy with the Meet & Greet the last few years. I think that it has been the perfect size for what it is supposed to be - meeting other forum members and getting others to join. Giant car shows with many classes and prizes are a lot of fun to go to but it's not what I look for in a Meet & Greet.

Don't get me wrong, I think that it is great that the Meet & Greet has been growing and getting tons of attention from all over, but I would prefer it to be the same size and semi-local, like it has been. For me, the purpose of the Meet & Greet to be able to put faces and cars to screen names on this site.

The close knit persona of this site is what makes the Meet & Greet fun. It's great that people from all over will be coming. I enjoy looking at a well put together car as much as anyone else, but meeting the members of this site, seeing their cars, and the conversations (before, during, and after) is what makes the Meet & Greet fun for me.

[Redd8407]

it should be mainly F bodies. other gm cars encouraged too? that's why I park my car in it's own spot at the meet n greets as to not interrupt the smooth lineup of F bodies. Other cars should be welcomed anyways, but they should have a section of their own.

[TB2]

I don't think the F-bodies should have other makes of cars mixed in amongst them. It takes away from the show. I don't have a problem if there was a GM, or american car lot adjacent to the F-bodies though.

[TheyCallMe Tim]

I'm also with Joel on this. I'm totally open to having other cars out, maybe not "mixed in" with us, but at least close in an adjacent lot. It's a Meet&Greet, not a "show", so it should be just that, a group of car guys out with their cars talking bull and having a good time.

[sgurzick]

I've never been to one of the meet & greets, but I feel that it needs to stay an Fbody show and if other cars come, they need to stay seperate. I'm sure all of us know of someone that owns something other than an Fbody, and if you started inviting everyone we know, it would soon be just like every other carshow out there. I'm impressed that there are that many Fbody's that come to the show, and would be in awe if I saw just Fbody's at a show instead of every kind of car out there. Camaro's are a little more common to see at carshows(no offense, love them too), but when you see this many Firebirds too, it's very impressive. I don't know how many of you go to Autorama and don't even go downstairs to see all the tuner cars(I'm one that doesn't), because that's just not our style car we want to see.

[LSxDreamer]

I don't mind non-fbodies being there as long as we don't lose the whole reason we are having the M&G. It's always nice to see other bad ass LSx cars and other works of art though. As long as the other cars aren't bringing down the "quality", so to speak, it shouldn't matter to much, but I would agree that they should park in an adjacent lot.

[Lucky SOB]

does anyone have a picture of the lots at kensington? i think this would help clarify what a lot of people that have been to the M&G, are trying to say about a seperate "non-fbody lot". if not i'll explain it to those that have never been. there are like 5 terraced lots that run down a hillside, down to a lake/pond. traditionally most everyone parks in the second lot from the bottom. the most bottom lot has been more of an exibit lot (GM set-up, 5th gens, drag cars, etc.) with some overflow fbodies. the third lot up, or middle lot usually has all the non-fbody cars and some more over flow bodies. the top one or two lots has nothing really, maybe a trailer or two for the drag cars or w/e. so if you want to bring a car to SHOW, that is not an fbody, it should be, as always, parked in the third lot up. Which btw is about 20' from the fbody lot, dont think it's like a quarter mile away or anything, it's 20 frikken feet!!!

[redfbird99]

does anyone have a picture of the lots at kensington? i think this would help clarify what a lot of people that have been to the M&G, are trying to say about a seperate "non-fbody lot". if not i'll explain it to those that have never been. there are like 5 terraced lots that run down a hillside, down to a lake/pond. traditionally most everyone parks in the second lot from the bottom. the most bottom lot has been more of an exibit lot (GM set-up, 5th gens, drag cars, etc.) with some overflow fbodies. the third lot up, or middle lot usually has all the non-fbody cars and some more over flow bodies. the top one or two lots has nothing really, maybe a trailer or two for the drag cars or w/e. so if you want to bring a car to SHOW, that is not an fbody, it should be, as always, parked in the third lot up. Which btw is about 20' from the fbody lot, dont think it's like a quarter mile away or anything, it's 20 frikken feet!!!
Of course as this meetup spreads, that third lot will also have to be filled with fbodies, especially if we get better weather than last year it should be a great turnout.

[Lucky SOB]

Of course as this meetup spreads, that third lot will also have to be filled with fbodies, especially if we get better weather than last year it should be a great turnout.

right, of course. but you get the point, the third lot's "style" will become the fourth's and so on. I'd just really like to see that the fbody lots stay strictly fbody only.

[meissen]

Here's the overhead picture and what we are going to be doing for this year's Meet & Greet which is why I said this year atleast we are not going to control who parks where.

16298

This year's parking will start at the top of the lot and work downwards. We felt this will make the show's 150-200 vehicles be spread out amongst 3-4 shorter rows rather than having 150-200 vehicles spread out amongst 1-2 really long rows. This will not only allow for a LOT better picture opportunities of all the cars but it'll also make the show feel a little more spread out and open I think.

As you can also see in the picture, we're starting to get a more centralized (in theory, not in location) "Event Headquarters" (stealing a phrase I've heard from Camaro Superfest) to have a specific area that the concession stand, event tent, and maybe some special vehicles would be located all in one area.

Note that the orange dots will be cones - this year's intentions are for people to follow the red arrows to the parking area which should alleviate the backup that occurred last year when large caravans like the Western Michigan caravan arrived all at once. This also should make "foot traffic" a little less in the way of "vehicle traffic" - but we won't know for sure until we do it and see how it goes.

[Darrenscamaro]

So we can park in any open spot once we arrive at the park? Thats good so I can hide mine in a corner somewhere :oops:

[OIF1VET]

Parking


Looks like a plan..:-D

[redfbird99]

Ohhhh I really like the new plan Meissen, great idea and I think it should go very smoothly.

[kammi10]

yep i like that parking plan

[Lucky SOB]

muuuuch nicer plan brian. i like how you have the cars entering also.

[meissen]

:thumbsup: Glad you guys like it - like I said before, we're trying to raise the bar every year and the more we do this the more we hope certain things will be learned. Like, for instance, we won't be doing 50/50 AND a raffle because 1) it was too confusing with two different tickets and 2) once the big ticket raffle prizes were gone it was too drawn out. But yeah, stuff like that - we're trying to make it better every year. :thumbsup:

[Formula Z]

that parking plan makes so much sense B. great idea!

[MiT/A'96]

It's a learning expereance...
Your doing a good job !! :lol:

[MikeM]

Sounds like everyone has already chimed in on this topic, but I just wanted to say: as someone who was planning to bring BOTH my Trans Am and my other old pony car (built in Dearborn . . . ) that I like the idea of parking all the F-bodies separately as we have before. I think that there should be an area close to the F-bodies for other "show" cars, including classics, exotics, tuners etc.; and then an area for "non-show" cars such as DDs, etc.

I know this discussion is supposed to be for 2010, but in reality I think this is pretty much what has happened in the last few years anyway, so if Brian chooses to set it up this way this year, I don't think anyone would be seriously worked up about it.

As many have pointed out, the parking lots at Kensington are pretty close together, and it's in broad daylight with hundreds of people around, so it's not like it's unsafe or anything to park your DD a few feet farther away.

I also think it's up to each individual to decide if their non-Fbody is a "show" or "non-show" car, and park it where they feel appropriate without anyone giving them grief that their car "isn't cool enough" or something. Everyone is proud of their rides, and who are we to judge, right?

I wouldn't like to see this event turn into a truly "formal" car show, as there are many of those already throughout the summer. I do like the trophies & stuff that are being done this year, but I think this event has always mainly been about meeting people, both ppl on the site as well as other F-body owners and enthusiasts from the region. So I think it should be open to all, no matter who built your ride or where.

[mikek18]

I like the idea of having other people there. ive said it before just maybe in a diff lot. I dont want to lose people like Brian with his chevelle or the nice corvettes that show up.

[Phantom383]

I like the idea of having other people there. ive said it before just maybe in a diff lot. I dont want to lose people like Brian with his chevelle or the nice corvettes that show up.

:agreed:

[hotrod16105]

I'm not a very active member here due to the fact that i live in Pa and i realize my opinion isn't all that important but i'll chime in anyway.

I am planning to make the spring and summer M&G's this year. I've been in the area before but not for these events. Its over a 300 mile drive and if some of my friends were willing to make the trip it would be nice if we could park together. Not all of them own fbodies(bastards). I understand wanting to keep it all fbodies and wouldn't have a problem with that either. They'll just have to park elsewhere. Just thought i'd share my thoughts, for what its worth. I do look forward to meeting some of you next month and again this summer. Sounds like a good time.:grin:

[Formula Z]

all f bodies can park together no matter the look or value of the vehicle. if its a camaro or bird, its in.

[MiT/A'96]

This discussion could go on for ever,but
if everybody got their lazy azz in here and VOTED ,the poll would give us a very good idea ...:lol:

[zmanrc]

Don't mind other cars, as long as they are site members. But, awards for fbodies only.

[WMCC Doug]

If I was a member of MiFbody but didn't have a Camaro or Firebird that I could drive to the Meet & Greet, I would still attend the event. I would understand that as a member I was welcome to be there. I would enjoy talking to and meeting all the other members from the site and looking at their cars. But I would NEVER EVEN CONSIDER parking my non-F Body car in with the Camaros and Firebirds, no mater how cool of a car it was. I just wouldn't do that. This is an F-Body site and there are hundreds of other car shows to attend that are open to all makes of cars.

I would be happy to have a non-F Body parking lot near by, but even if that was not available, I would just park somewhere else. This site is F-body focused and even though we all like cars in general, I just wouldn't park my non F-body with them.

But that's just me. I respect the other members enough to not muddle up the show with some other car. I wouldn't try to park my Camaro in a Corvette show, I wouldn't try to park my Camaro in a Mustang show. I wouldn't try to park my Camaro in an Import oriented show either.

[mikek18]

Well put Doug.


If I was a member of MiFbody but didn't have a Camaro or Firebird that I could drive to the Meet & Greet, I would still attend the event. I would understand that as a member I was welcome to be there. I would enjoy talking to and meeting all the other members from the site and looking at their cars. But I would NEVER EVEN CONSIDER parking my non-F Body car in with the Camaros and Firebirds, no mater how cool of a car it was. I just wouldn't do that. This is an F-Body site and there are hundreds of other car shows to attend that are open to all makes of cars.

I would be happy to have a non-F Body parking lot near by, but even if that was not available, I would just park somewhere else. This site is F-body focused and even though we all like cars in general, I just wouldn't park my non F-body with them.

But that's just me. I respect the other members enough to not muddle up the show with some other car. I wouldn't try to park my Camaro in a Corvette show, I wouldn't try to park my Camaro in a Mustang show. I wouldn't try to park my Camaro in an Import oriented show either.

[OIF1VET]

Well put Doug.Very well put.. I wish I was smart!

[JoeliusZ28]

not to throw another wrench in things, but after reading responses like Doug's i dont think this poll has effectively answered the question because it can have two different meanings.

I voted "mildly support" non-fbodies attending while having the assumption in my mind that they would be parking in a seperate lot.

I think many of the people who voted against, did not make that same assumption and took the question as asking if we should allow other cars to "integrate." (which i wouldnt support either).


nice parking plan B.

[Superman09]

I'm the other party so i'll share some input. I have met a ton of people and new friends through MIFbody attending events and just meeting up when I had my Trans Am. Stupid mods and having the car getting tuned kept me from the MnG the last 2 years. I really want to come this year but no longer have an f-body. I see both sides of the fence on this issue. I don't see any good reason why I should park with the f-bodies... I don't have one. However on the other side of the fence, I won't really want to come if I have to park my car out in BFE away from the activities. I don't think "others" need to be judged or given prizes either. I really don't think this topic is going to be much of an issue. Honestly, we're promoting an f-body show....... mustangs and other people aren't going to randomly show up. If some do, its going to be nowhere to the extent of it being an issue. If I didn't know any of you guys or have a prior affiliation, I wouldn't be coming..... but since I do I'd like to come and bring my vette.

[nascarnate326]

How about we have a lot for "Non Camaro/Firebird/TA"

I am confused, if everyone follows the arrows and splits up,they were still be a bottle neck as there is only one little road to get to the parking. :?: Ill just follow who ever is in front of me.

[Kwazrollinz28]

F-bodies only.

[meissen]

How about we have a lot for "Non Camaro/Firebird/TA"

I am confused, if everyone follows the arrows and splits up,they were still be a bottle neck as there is only one little road to get to the parking. :?: Ill just follow who ever is in front of me.

:lol: That was just showing the different routes everyone would go... I would assume that everyone would "Follow the leader" and go down one row at a time.

[BadassBuick86]

dont care what is said, my GN will be there, or i wont be;)

Im just sayin.......and im pretty sure most of you here want me to bring it too

Im bringing the Camaro, if its not dead, im justn ot driving it.

[lawmanbsi]

I'm against none fbody car unless they are members. I also believe keeping it all fbody for the future. If the show is good already we don't need to bend to make it bigger. Shows need rules other wise its another parking lot.

[BadassBuick86]

As long as they arent like honda civics and stuff yeah. If someone brought a HEMI 'Cuda or something, no one in their right mind would say no to having them in out show. We should be able to mingle within the Fbodies, i want people to see my car as much as a wanna see theirs. I think it breaks up the pack a bit. i mean itll be like "Camaro.......Camaro.........Firebird.......T/A.......Grand National, itll bring more attention to the fbodies if there is a sea of them, they just kinda blend in, especially since the majority of them are LS1 cars.